Thomas Steininger in dialogue with François Demange

Language matters. It creates our worlds. The trance of our objectified language creates the objectified world that we are living in. Indigenous people spoke in a different way. They enchanted the rivers, the hills, the water and mountains. Or did the rivers and the hills, the water and the mountains enchant them?

In sacred rituals, the original peoples created relationships through language that we have abandoned. François Demange lived for many years in the Peruvian Amazon and connects worlds through shamanic practices. He connects the natural world, indigenous worlds, and our contemporary world. Together with his partner Kelly Jennings, he opens the power of ritual language to a global context through an online course:

https://metsa-nihue.mykajabi.com/a/2147748041/rwuv2ooF‍

In this week’s Radio evolve, Thomas Steininger talks with François Demange about transforming one’s life with the language revealed by entheogens, plant consciousness and indigenous wisdom.